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I was often plagued at the beginning with this belief that for me to be a successful business person, I had to achieve recognition. I had to somehow be involved in grand projects, right? And I would say that was sort of an impoverished position, right? Because I didn't value myself as myself. I needed validation in order to somehow say I was someone of worth. Right? So many of us go through life I think impoverished in our sense of selfworth.

Right? We oftentimes put our sense of I am a valuable person when I achieve this when I gain that when I receive this acca accolade or if I am invited to that you know team then I am a valuable person right the sense of um looking outside of our actual life and who we are for our sense of worth and I certainly suffered from the same the same kind of illness. And so in my early career, there was always this nagging question.

Oh, but you know, you're not really successful because you know, you haven't done a movie yet or because you didn't win that award. Not that I was going after awards. I could have, but there was like um an impoverished sense of my own self-worth, right? Living an EOC value system slowly I think changed my perspective right it slowly nurtured within me a sense that I am already a valuable person as I am in fact when I go to something I bring value with me I don't go there looking for value when I go to an event when I go to a screening when I go to a a production shoot I don't go looking for accolades and to receive value I'm bringing my value to the party, right?

So, I have something to bring and something to give. And I think the EOCC model and the EOC values have helped to kind of reformulate my sense of a giving, loving, valuable person to be, you know, in the mix. Um, so I, you know, maybe it's kind of a a different way to look at this question of how does the EOC alleviate poverty, but I think the any model of of self-giving helps us to re could help us to reexamine our own internal poverties that need to also be attended to.