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At that point I was an independent contractor. I had my own company and uh I found someone um an old friend of mine who was looking for a job and he is um marketing manager and I said what would a marketing manager can do for a technical company? Uh but this guy needed a job. He had a uh he just got married and I says, "Okay, come on, Jeffrey. I'll I'll come in. I I'll work let's work this together."

Um long and behold, uh as a marketing manager, he was very good with Excel. And at one point, we had to do calculations, load calculations on the power, how much power would this data center would require. So I started giving him all the the um the components and with the Excel spreadsheet he was good. He put together already all all the the the results the requirements right. So a marketing manager is good in but he was good in in that.

So before you know it he was very val he became very valuable. Another one was um uh Sandra who just finished uh her college in uh Philadelphia and she was a business um English major. Uh if you think about it, I we're we're technical company providing uh network communication security. What would a college graduate uh English student provide? again she came to to me and says we're I'm looking for a job and I think that's part of the economy of communion principle is that everyone can give and everyone can receive.

So she was giving me her need of finding finding a job but she was also very good with with with the uh writing reading and creating a document. So part of this project required uh creating operators and administration O andM which is operating and man and operating manuals for this new systems. So we gave her the task of putting together a little bit of compiling those and and she did so much such a great job that finally those manuals were so easy to read that when we we presented it to the reviewers and they says wow this is great because anyone could take these manuals and understand and and read it.

So it was just a series of that that it just from one to another we bring in people who had needs that perhaps they're not the classical person that would be so technical that would be needed but by providing them the job they blossom and and they they they fulfill I mean they be they really blossom and they give so much to also to the company so they give and they receive. So that's how the company started to grow.