One one job when I was in Geneva, they actually had to split it up into three different jobs and and that's not true to me. It's the fact that you stay in a job big enough and you keep growing it. You know how it works, you know, and uh and so therefore you put someone else in there and it's it's just, you know, it's too big to take on at one point in time. So that's the downside to leaving someone in a job for a long time.
You get to be too good at what you do and there for replacement is is uh bit challenging. And the flip side is um you also get into those situations uh where you know exactly what to do, which button to push, slow this down, change this, move her to this, and it becomes a little routine, you know, and I I think that's where it starts draining your energy a little bit where it comes too routine and you lose some of the excitement.
So, and that's always a signal for me that maybe time to move on to my next role to get more exposure from that standpoint. Cargo's been also very accommodating from that standpoint. In fact, I probably turned down um I we had one situation where I moved to Geneva and my family was there and I knew we had one international move for our family and we had to come back to Minneapolis someday. I would I'd have stayed in Geneva the rest of my life if I had the chance.
And two different times Cargo says, "Well, what about Singapore?" I said, "No, there's only two dots in the map. There's Minneapolis and and Geneva." And they said, "Well, how about Singapore?" No, there's two dots in the map. Let me remind you what the map looks like. Don't be doing this on the map. You know, I just those two dots. And so we finally got that organized and it all worked out uh over time. And um so and I think the uh when I retired, the family met with the family wanted to meet.
Uh so they we had a private session with them and um they were also their comment was that Emory we really appreciate you carrying the Cargill Bible you know from that standpoint because they they from an ethical standpoint from a leadership standpoint for building people and their skill sets thinking long term uh not embarrassing Cargill I think they really appreciate it from that standpoint I think they did anyway uh I never viewed myself as carrying the Cargill Bible but I you know you take these things seriously and if you if you don't take them seriously.
What are we doing here? I mean, you really got to be engaged and um you know, and your heart has to be in it. Uh otherwise, you're not offering anything to anyone around you.