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Kiara uh was reading about Teresa Avala around 1960, probably a little bit before, but some of the things that she said came out in the early 60s. And she said just as Theres of Lazu Theresa of Avala talks about the interior castle, we also have the exterior castle because it's not only me contemplating God within myself, but there's the same God in the other is trying to live this way. So Kiara used the metaphor of a garden.

Traditionally, we've learned to admire one flower. God we find in one flower and and to grow in that. But God's calling us to not only admire him in that flower, but in each different flower in this diverse garden. And in that process, it becomes less subjective, less these are my words now, less just my take on God. But this admiring God and each of these other flowers, each of these other persons makes it more my relationship with God.

Not just my own take on God, but God as he is. All right? But also it's God in me relating with God in you. And it's reciprocated. And in that reciprocation of loving one another as he loves us, as he said, for two or more gathered in my name, there among them. We can have Jesus among us. And with Jesus among us is also the Holy Spirit. And the fruits of the spirit which is in the letter of the Galatians are joy, peace, also oftentimes a certain light in that.

So when Kiara refers to the exterior castle, it brings up many other images that we've learned living this spirituality that our union with God is also in the collectivity. All right? It's got to have both elements. We can't be missing the interior, but the exterior makes it how the church should be. How all of us disciples of Christ should be together loving one another that it's also God among us. Not only God within each of us, but also among us. It's really kind of a revolution in the way that we understand understand the spiritual life.