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So I one of the things that I was doing was I was working at a private school as finish line tutoring math and physics there. I was in a place in the on campus that I'm almost never at. I was talking to the dean of faculty who I almost never saw and she looked at me and she said, "You know, we've been looking for a director of an academic center and we thought we had the person that we wanted, but it just didn't work out properly."

And I said, "H what does it make any sense for me to apply?" And she said, "Oh, yeah. We were thinking actually of you, but we knew that you had finish line." Well, Finish Line was in its last couple of years. The reason it was still open was because we had made a commitment to the students that we would take them through graduation and it would take two more years to get everybody through. So, we were very tiny at that point and I was doing most of the work actually at this school.

So when I went to interview for the job, they sat there and they said, "Could you please tell us what your vision is for this academic center?" And I looked at them. I said, "Why don't you tell me what your vision for it is because you're the one who knows what you want and then I'll be able to offer whether I think I can meet that need or not." thing that always made me laugh was that I was given the mandate with the headmaster who said, "You have four years to make this viable.

If it's not self- sustainable by then, we're going to cut it." And I'm sitting there thinking, "Okay, we can do this. No problem." And after the first year, we were already making money.