in the economy of communion business. Uh some of my employees or most of my employees uh to an extent they they work hard for the company because they said this is a great company I I want to work hard. Um so that that's great but then there are times when they were working too hard that it was also detrimental to their health and to their family. So there was this guy uh one of my top network engineer who was so dedicated for the company that he was spending days and nights working and making sure that the company flourishes and for a manager for an owner of a company that's that's a dream job like to have your employees so so engaged and yet for me I I thought hm something's not right here.
So together with my the HR manager, we had to force him to take vacations to spend time with his wife. And we we told him, you have to take a week off. You have to take this day off. You are too stressed.
There's work. There's a project. We know the deadline. But your health is more important than that. So he says, "No, no, no. But I I could do this. I could do this." He says, "No, we're going to write you up if you come to work." So you're going to be in trouble if you come to work. So you have to go and take a vacation. So those are the things. Then one time one of my employees were telling me that he was hearing overhearing him talk to another uh this employee was talking to someone else in the phone and he was saying yeah in this company they forced me to take vacation they they're forcing me to to stay with with my wife you know and and and he was just so happy and and so those are the counterculture where you you force someone to say take a vacation you know.