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Joan Duggan was co-founder of a very successful company, which she later sold. She then worked in the corporate world for a while, but eventually gave almost all of her money away and founded an EoC-minded tutoring startup in upstate New York, which she helped manage for over 2 decades. She says EoC is a way of living, and isn't just for entrepreneurs who own their own businesses. Joan describes a situation where she was challenged to be generous in a way which was hard. It had nothing to do with owning a business, and it was not a business decision. It was about being generous with what you have, which is the EoC way of living.

When it comes to "giving" there is a giving that is self-interested that always seek their own advantage-- giving to get something in return.

But there is also a kind of "giving" that is unconditional, which seeks the other well being.

In this giving, the giver opens up to the other person and remains respectful of his or her dignity. In other words, it is not done with pity or paternalistically. It generates an experience of the words in the gospel "give and it will be given to you" even for the managers of a business. These words from the gospel might manifest themselves to the businessperson in the form of a financial windfall, or in the unexpected discovery of an innovative technical solution, or as an idea for a new winning product.