I remember uh one company that uh we had developed a good good relationship with them and the treasurer brought us to meet the CEO of the company and uh CEO was an interesting person. Um he had a great interest in Japan, Japanese culture. I took a couple of uh undergraduate courses in Japanese literature and so uh as he was talking about his interest in Japan. So it was more of just to get to know each other before I was able to talk with him about a little bit about Japanese literature.
Now you say what the heck does that have to do with business? But I think um at the time, now we're talking in the 80s, City Bank, which was at the time the biggest bank in the world, they valued people with knowledge and interests outside of the field of business. and and I see that uh whatever the thing is, someone may be an expert in it or in the World Cup for soccer or whatever it is, all of those things are valuable, you know, because they're all means for relationship with people because a relationship goes beyond just the immediate service or product that we're providing, but that's a human being that I'm relating with.
So I would say don't discount any other interest or thing that you've studied that I think it all is valuable in terms of the interviewing process and choosing where to work. If I find people who are interested in people uh that's important that is an institution that wants to foster the development of its personnel for their good right it'll serve the interest of the institution but it's for the good of the of the personnel as they go ahead uh that that is very important I think now that's an ideal scenario you I don't always find that.
But if I'm choosing between two and I see one that maybe have a very good product or whatever and another that product has to be good as well, but that they value their personnel that that's important.